Well lets develop your percentage of charges suggestion,
and take the starting premise that some body were prepared
to operate a com.au registry for free.

Would the ADNA concept survive? I can't see how.

So, on the other hand,  is it reaonsable to charge every DNA? 
Again no. There are a number of DNAs, including myself, who
would not participate in a structure which levied fees for
a voluntary effort which is operating well without end consumer
charges and see no reason to change that.

I get back to my original conclusion a weeks ago - the ADNA
concept looks broken to me.

Thanks,

    Geoff


At 08:55 PM 11/5/97 +0800, Michael Malone wrote:
>I suppose the real problem is with the decision being
>left open ended.  I am unlikely to relinquish asn.au
>on the understanding that I will receive an "exemption
>from charges" at the board's discretion.
>
>A pertinent question is "why should I receive such
>an exemption" anyway? Because I do it for free?
>
>What if someone decides to provide COM.AU domains for
>free.  What if connec.com.au was still doing NET.AU for
>free.  Are we suggesting that they would be charged a
>fee for providing this free service? Why should they
>be charged?
>
>I think the ultimate reason is because funding has to
>come from somewhere.  This is unfortunately not really
>acceptable to any reasonable person.
>
>In the end, the only fair result is a fairly even
>handed treatment of each DNA.  Probably the only
>way to do this would be as a flat percentage of
>fees.  So if M-IT chooses to charge $125 per domain,
>and they register 6540 domains this year (all easily
>visible to an external authority), then X percent
>of this is levied.
>
>On the other hand, if someone else decides to do it
>for free, while meeting the same "rules" that M-IT
>must adhere to, then they should be charged nothing.
>
>Time is running very short.  If we wish this meeting
>in five days to actually create a body, these last minute
>questions probably do need to be addressed.
>
>Is sponsorship an answer?  Are there enough bodies who
>would consider this worth the investment of a no strings
>attached donation? Are there any other alternatives?
>
>MM
>
>> Reading through the M&A, you will see that there is provision made
>> for there to be no charging of those DNA's deemed appropriate by 
>> ADNA - a situation specifically designed to allow domains such as edu.au,
>> gov.au, asn.au, and so on to continue as they do without change, and
>> without being charged for providing, as you say, a volounteer service.
>> I don't see it as broken - and there's been a lot of volounteer work put 
>> in by a lot of people over the last year to ensure it isn't - and I do 
>> see a way for you to play within its structures.
>> 
>> 
>> Luke Carruthers
>> Magna Data
>> Internet Solutions Provider
>
>
>
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