>_From: David Keegel
> 
> I am indebted to Vic for providing a specific example of the sort of
> problems he has.
<snip>
> It sounds like the registrar has acted in an appropriate way.
> Unfortunately, I can't say the same for the applicant who didn't
> bother to supply the full information to the registrar, or even
> to check whether the domain name was already in use!
>  
> ] I am I the only one here who finds this disgracefull?
> I think you are the only one.
>  
> ] when are the unsuspecting public going to cease to be beholden to
> ] the whims and personal tastes and preferences of volunteer registrars?
> 
> The only thing I can see here which could be done on the registrar side
> (apart from a public education campaign, which is hardly appropriate here)
> is to consider having something like Melbourne IT's (interestingly named)
> PISP program.
> 
> Then applicants could have their application submitted by a third party
> who understands what is required for org.au and what sort of checks should
> be done and information submitted to the registrar for best results.
> Basically a knowledgable commercial third party to do consulting on domain
> name registration issues (and maybe DNS) -- a domain name broker.

of course you are absolutely right. how silly of me, you know there for a moment
I was actually focusing on the customers needs, I dont know what came over me,
must be something to do with trying to run a business. I actually thought that
the customers needs came before the convoluted petty beaurocratic rules of
the registrars. but you are right, in future we will rack and disembowl all customers
that dare not to at least have a a phd in dnsology, we will exectue anyone who
even suggests they should buy a business name for the purpose of bypassing
the .com.au rules for instance. and god help anyone who already has domain name
in any other part of there group, one hundred hail Robert Elzs before bed.

just how stupid are these charity people, thinking that centacare-brokenbay.org.au
is even remotely worthy of being allowed entrance into the dns zone files when
even a blind man can see that bronken-bay.centacare.org.au is infinetly more
superior. I mean that reaganging of the '-' and '.' is clearly something at
the end of the day is going to make a world of difference when someone peruses
the zone file and see how neat and tidy it is. who know maybe even god himself
may use zone file tidyness as a criteria for entrance into paradise.

I guess thats what happens in charities, you know, they dont get paid much
so they dont really know what is what. thank god we have the dns people here who
can set them straight. that at the end of the day, the policy rules must come above
all else. the sanctity of the database aestethics have been maintained. just
what do these charities do for anyone anyway?

lets call on the government to immediately introduce dnsology as a compulsory
high school subject. namestatus 1, nic-handles for beginers. interpreting .com.au
rules beginers course, intermediary and advanced. we can loby the goverment to outlaw
.com.au rules avoidance schemes. introduce compulsory .com.au entrance examinations.
anything to avoid the situation for instance in america  where customers can choose
any name and have it in 30 minutes.

clearly in my mind there is no value to something if there is no pain in
aquiring it. so a 30 minute domain name without a steady stream of
dialog between the registrar and the customer is just not worth
the ip packets that carry it. we can sleep in peace here in australia
secure in the knowledge that a .au name should be worn with pride, because not
just anyone gets one. no wogs, slopes, poms or yanks will, without crawling through
2 inch pipes jumping over 12 foot walls and racing across burning coals, wear 
a .au domain. and we can rest assured in the knowledge that everyone is treated
equaly, not even those do gooder charities get any special treatement, no sir
we treat them all equaly, and we wont let them do-gooders muddy the beauty
of a well pruned zone file.


Vic Cinc
Chairman CIA
Director Ausbone
Director IIA