Ron,

I had hoped this was clear to everyone but just in case, no-one has been
given 'bulk access' to AUNIC. Bulk access is specifically forbidden and is a
breach of copyright. The only way to get the information out of AUNIC is to
send individual queries or write a computer program that sends an individual
query every, say, 5 seconds. I'll leave it to you to figure out which of
these methods are used by those intent on stealing (and it is theft)
information from AUNIC.

FYI I wrote a 'please explain' to ING last week since it has come to our
attention that they have been accessing information from AUNIC. They are not
unique in this respect.

Regards

Chris Disspain
CEO - auDA
ceo§auda.org.au
+61-3-9226-9495
www.auda.org.au


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark§businesspark.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 20 August 2001 16:02
To: 'dns§auda.org.au'
Subject: RE: [DNS] ING charging $250 non-refundable for .BIZ and .INFO

I've come into this at a late stage, and I may be covering ground that's
already been gone over - in which case, my apologies.  We've had many of our
clients ring us in concern about ING's unsolicited emails regarding  the
.BIZ and .INFO pre-registration.

My concern is how can ING be given access to bulk information for the
purposes of what those of our clients who rang us for clarification, regard
as spam.  This also introduces the spectre of the very organisation that
should be the epitome of privacy protection being seen to release personal
information to an organisation (ING), that is then seen to abuse that
information.

At best, such compromises the integrity of the rest of the industry; I
consider it is predatory business practice that gives us all an undeserved
bad name.


Ron Stark
Business Park Pty Ltd
mail: ronstark§businesspark.com.au
tel: +61 (0)3 9592 6895   fax: +61 (0)3 9591 0729
mob: +61 (0)41 812 9922



-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Archer [mailto:rha§juggernaut.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 20 August 2001 3:44 PM
To: dns§auda.org.au
Subject: Re: [DNS] ING charging $250 non-refundable for .BIZ and .INFO


Hey,

A new development on the ING issue. If the letters they send out get
returned to sender, they ring up the admin contact for the domain.

 ...R.

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