On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Mark Hughes wrote: > IP Australia is a poor 'fit' with the users of the com.au domain namespace. > and > Treating domain names as primarily an issue for business is wrong; treating > it as primarily an issue for trademark & patent holders would be an even > bigger mistake - their interests are not the same as 2,000,000 Australian > commercial entities. > I'm inclined to agree here that IP Australia and trademark holders are a small subset of the potential legitimate holders of .com.au domain names (and given the rather restrictive regime we have been working under the trademark issue is relatively well handled.) Also on the other hand they are far from perfect themselves with some of the things that slip through. Want a great example? My company has been around since 1991 or so (Clarity Software Pty Ltd) In 1998 we registered the clarity.com.au domain. Clarity International Pty Ltd approached me at some stage early 1999 with the propersition of "needing" that name as they were heading for a public listing. Of course we are quite happy with the domain name and have no desire to give it up. In light of this in May 1999 Clarity International applied for and was subsequently granted the trade mark "clarity.com.au"! Did IP Australia bother look at aunic the database and see if the domain name was registered by someone else? No! Did they observe that the "word mark" clarity.com.au was actually a domain name and not capable of distinguishing any Clarity International product or service as it was already in use by Clarity Software? No! And to boot they registered its use as: "Software-Operational Support System ...." So they now have a trade mark of our domain name for a product that presumably makes no sense to put in the market place as it can't help but cause confusion in the market place with our legitimate use of our domain name? Crazy stuff. BTW this was not drawn to my attention until after the opposition period had elapsed and now its a major case to get the trademark overruled. The reason I post this is just a demonstration that things can and do go wrong as far as AIPO is concerned as well. regards doug Doug Robb Clarity Software Pty Ltd http://clarity.com.au GPO Box 763 Phone: 0403 02 2527 Nedlands 6909 Fax: (618) 93867564 Australia email: doug§clarity.com.au Attachment: Extract from AIPO trademark registration database ---------------------------------------------------------- Word: Clarity.com.au Lodgement Date: 28-MAY-1999 Class/es: 9 Status: Registered/Protected Kind: n/a Type: Word Owner/s: Clarity International Limited ACN: 063732883 Goods & Services Class: 9 Software-Operational Support System (OSS) developed for networks of telecommunications carriers and utility companies ---------------------------------------------------- -- This article is not to be reproduced or quoted beyond this forum without express permission of the author. 342 subscribers. Archived at http://listmaster.iinet.net.au/list/dns (user: dns, pass: dns) Email "unsubscribe" to dns-request§auda.org.au to be removed.Received on Wed Sep 05 2001 - 03:07:33 UTC
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