Steven

You have raised some very good and important points in your emails.

Cost recovery and pricing models for maintenance of namespaces underpin
issues raised by your emails.

I do not recall any debate, in the Name and Competition Panels or DNS List
(since June 2000), on the issues of:

- subsidised access to domain names (licences) - "charity" or "rights"
discourses

- funding of any subsidised access - the industry, registries, registrars,
resellers, (other) good corporate citizens and (dare I suggest it)
governments

IMO, a compelling case can be made - as you have begun to do - for
subsidised access to domain name licences on social and, perhaps, economic
grounds.  Here's a number of starting points:

- auDA should ensure universal access to a domain name licence for all
Australians.

- auDA should ensure the provision of (affordable) domain name licences for
those with a demonstrated need.

- Hypothesis: Given the scale and scope of domain name registrations in the
.au namespace, under new registry arrangements the marginal cost of issuing
a domain name licence should approach zero.

Regards

Ian


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-----Original Message-----
From: Skeeve Stevens [mailto:skeeve§skeeve.org]
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 8:49 PM
To: dns§auda.org.au
Cc: 'aussie isp aussie.net'; 2600-list§wiretapped.net
Subject: [DNS] A call on auDA



My previous posts (to the dns list) replicated some thoughts already
posted about .asn.au and the interests of NFP's in relation to their
presence in the .au namespace.

This is a request for auDA to consider dropping the requested fees for
some key 2ld's - namely, .org.au/.asn.au/.id.au/info.au/conf.au
(others?)

Even combined, the turnover of these 2ld's are insignificant compared to
.com.au/.net.au and would be no real revenue raiser.

To charge a local church, scout group, local chamber of commerce, local
SES unit for their domain name, especially the proposed (approx $50/year
for .asn.au) that is just wrong...  and as another person voiced, doing
this would force these entities to move out of the .au namespace as the
.com/.net/.org are cheaper by far ($33/year).

It is understood that Connect West would not be willing to put this cost
onto .asn.au and have provided the service for years for free... and is
not only doing it because they are being forced to by auDA.....

Please auDA, consider the Internet community, especially those who have
relied on the .org.au/.asn.au/etc namespace. auDA, please drop your
requested fees for these 2ld's.

If auDA will not listen, I am sure there are others out there who will
listen, and will get involved into pressuring auDA to do so.


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Skeeve Stevens     Email: skeeve§skeeve.org
Website: www.skeeve.org  - Telephone: (0414) 753 383
Address: P.O Box 1035, Epping, NSW, 1710, Australia
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-----Original Message-----
From: Skeeve Stevens [mailto:skeeve§skeeve.org]
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 8:30 PM
To: dns§auda.org.au
Subject: [DNS] End of the times

With asn.au now charging... does that mean others who currently are not
charging, are planning to ?

.org.au for example.

I look after about 50 .org.au which are churches or Christian
organisations/charities and so on...

with .asn.au being loosely defined as associations, or groups or
people... the sort who normally don't have much money or financial
structure... now being charged... I thought the question worth asking.

Will universities pay for .edu.au? governments pay for .gov.au? and will
CSIRO have to pay a big bucket of money for csiro.au ?

There is also info.au, conf.au, .id.au (some already charged I think?)
and so on...

Is the Australian namespace now going to be a commercial only activity?
or is there still room for the charity there once was... I am sure
.org.au and .asn.au have a very small turnover compared to the
commercial .com.au and .net.au... whoever becomes a registry I am sure
could continue to offer to process these currently free domains as they
are...

A business can afford a domain name... even though Australian domains
are a almost double the price of .com/.net/.org, but small groups such
as churches, sports clubs and other collectives are often not in that
position....

Any comments?


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Website: www.skeeve.org  - Telephone: (0414) 753 383
Address: P.O Box 1035, Epping, NSW, 1710, Australia
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