RE: [DNS] Consumer Alert

RE: [DNS] Consumer Alert

From: Jon Lawrence <jon§jonlawrence.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:48:20 +0000
Yeah lets reintroduce the monopoly and centralise as much as possible. Competition
is bad.  Oh yeah and lets nationalise the banks while we're at it.


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>From: "John Thomson" <john&#167;hep10.com>
>To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
>Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:41:16 +1000
>Subject: RE: [DNS] Consumer Alert
>
>
>Well Ron just effectively solved the whole problem. That's a great idea.
>
>John
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark&#167;businesspark.com.au]
>Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2003 8:32 PM
>To: 'dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au'
>Subject: RE: [DNS] Consumer Alert
>
>
>Time I woke up and stuck my oar in with something I've raised before.
>
>The solution is really easy - follow the car registration route, in which
>the number plate is analogous to the domain name.
>
>Allow resellers to sell the *initial* registration, with a reasonable
>mark-up; after all, domain names are usually sold as an adjunct to other,
>higher value, services.  Just like the number plate comes with the car.
>
>All renewals are then done at a *lower* rate, and solely through a central
>authority, or at worst, solely through only accredited registrars.  Just
>like car registration renewals.
>
>All of the spam around renewals will stop - there and then.  All of the
>effort will then go into *new* business development, which is great for
all
>of us.
>
>Ron Stark
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John Thomson [mailto:john&#167;hep10.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2003 8:55 PM
>>To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
>>Subject: RE: [DNS] Consumer Alert
>>
>>
>>I don't like being cynical but nobody is going to clean the 
>>Industry up. It
>>is only a matter of time before some Gold Coast company is set up to
>>telemarket to existing businesses for their domain renewal 
>>business. Why?
>>Simply it is an easy sell. The fear of losing a domain name 
>>will make them
>>easy prey and all they have to do is sign a simple form. Its 
>>virtually a one
>>call sell system. If any of you have telemarketing experience that
>>translates to fairly easy money for the right operator.
>>
>>The only effective way to control it is via a controlling 
>>entity that has
>>power to hit them hard and fast. Auda is not that entity at 
>>this stage. It
>>is a toothless tiger. Yes a warning! Stop or I'll say stop 
>>again. Scary! I
>>agree with Richard but won't be holding my breath for it to happen. My
>>advice is get used to scammers but stop blaming the wrong 
>>people. There has
>>barely been a mention of uregister but poor old bottle has 
>>copped heaps. It
>>doesn't make sense to me. It is up to Auda to say to uregister you have
>>breached our policy guidelines you have 14 days to show why 
>>you shouldn't be
>>closed down.
>>
>>That's not going to happen. Until it does focus your writing 
>>on making Auda
>>into a tiger with bite and get off bottles back. Has uregister 
>>covered this
>>scam in their domain warning system? I bet not. They don't even use
>>Australian hosting services so we should all be hammering them. Support
>>Australian businesses and promote fair trading for all.
>>
>>Getting off my soapbox now. Flame away.
>>
>>John
>>www.hep10.com
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Richard Archer [mailto:rha&#167;juggernaut.com.au]
>>Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2003 6:37 PM
>>To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
>>Subject: Re: [DNS] Consumer Alert
>>
>>
>>
>>>However I will raise this general point again.  Walking away from
>>>organisations who have breached auDA policy in the past (as a lot of
>>>them have, all be it minor), is the easy way out.
>>
>>What a cop out. Get some backbone and do some hard yards to clean
>>up the industry on which you depend for your livelihood.
>>
>>Not that it should be an option. AuDA should be onto you like the
>>proverbial ton for supporting rot like this. Shows just what sort
>>of a job they're doing.
>>
>>
>>>It's very easy to wipe your hands of something that's dirty.  Not so
>>>easy to clean it.
>>
>>And it's even easier to stay dirty.
>>
>>I guess I'll just keep on looking forward to the next 20 junk mails
>>I'm going to get from some rogue operator who is then allowed to walk
>>off scott free with the profits from their little scam. And of course
>>the accredited registrar they use gets to keep their share. And auDA
>>gets their cut no matter what. And Ausregistry takes a slice.
>>
>>Everybody involved gets nicely rewarded from stuffing my PO Box with
>>dead trees. There's no incentive to clean up this nonsense is there?
>>
>> ...R.
>>
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