Re: [DNS] Reseller alleges theft of $730 by Registrar [was] [DNS] Bottle Domains - transfer issues URGENT HELP PLease.

Re: [DNS] Reseller alleges theft of $730 by Registrar [was] [DNS] Bottle Domains - transfer issues URGENT HELP PLease.

From: Deus Ex Machina <vicc§cia.com.au>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:10:11 +1100
guys this is beyond tedious. I am going to send you a bill for having to
hit the 'd' key well above and beyond a number of reasonable times.

Vic

info&#167;australianwebsites.com [info§australianwebsites.com] wrote:
> Edwin,
> 
> I have renamed this thread to
> "Reseller alleges theft of $730 by Registrar"
> 
> which I probably should have done earlier.
> 
> Any discussion of relevance to the original thread posted by Jim
> 
> seeking help on a domain issue is of miniscule importance compared
> 
> to the allegation of theft that was made by Adam against an
> 
> accredited Registrar.
> 
> The main point of the discussion was to invite the facts of this
> 
> claim, if any, to be presented so that after seeing the original allegation
> 
> of theft by Adam we could all make an informed judgement on
> 
> the truth or otherwise of the claim.
> 
> A 2nd reason for the discussion was that apathy ( not seeking the facts )
> 
> in the light of an extremely serious type of allegation would make this list and the
> 
> domain industry appear negligent in the face of such an issue alleged by Adam.
> 
> AS I STATED TO ADAM EARLIER  ( copy below )
> 
> As you were the one who raised the extremely serious issue / claim
> of theft by an accredited registrar
> 
> "where they took credit that YES I was rightfully entitled to and now
> they won't reinstate".
> 
> and spelt YES in capitals to apparently emphasise your indignation at
> this stated theft, I would have thought that at the very least you
> would have reported this to the relevant authorities.
> 
> I was hoping we would see as much specific facts as possible
> from yourself in support of your allegations.
> 
> If not a single participant in this list had bothered to make the
> effort to invite you to provide more information to support your
> very serious allegation of theft by a Registrar, this list and the
> domain industry would be seen in a very bad light indeed by the
> general public.
> 
> 
> Regards
> Barry Armstrong
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: tenty&#167;lanmadness.net 
>   To: dns&#167;dotau.org 
>   Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 5:41 PM
>   Subject: [DNS] RE: Adam/Barry Flame war [was] [DNS] Bottle Domains - transfer issues URGENT HELP PLease.
> 
> 
>   At the risk of being dragged into this flame war of posts, I will ask people to
>   stop growling at each other and let the bone go. Here's my 2c...
> 
>   It seems to be clear that Trent is correct in all of this.
>   Adam has stated his discontent for Planet.
>   Barry has backed the service he has from Planet.
> 
>   I fail to see the relevance in the link, although, not having listened to the
>   real audio interview (because i refuse to install real audio on a slow P133
>   laptop and the work computer doesn't allow real audio streams though the
>   firewall), I don't know what went on.
> 
>   Don't take this as a personal attack however, I just am merely stating the fact
>   of your average computer user.
> 
>   I can see the point in Adam not taking legal action in the $500+ as it would
>   probably cost just as much in legal fees. But I can see how this could be
>   warranted as a "serious" allegation against a company. As Trent correctly
>   pointed out however, if you don't like a place, don't shop there.
> 
>   Lets bring this thread to a close now shall we? as the morel of the story is:
>   Everyone's had more than their 2c worth.
> 
>   Cheers
>   -Edwin
> 
> 
>   Quoting info&#167;australianwebsites.com:
> 
>   > As I pointed out a new and extremely serious issue / allegation
>   > was initiated by Adam on this list.
>   >
>   > Re - relevance: Perhaps someone should have updated the
>   > subject of the thread as it was in fact a new issue and
>   > allegation raised by Adam which as far as I could see had
>   > no relevance at all to the original post by Jim.
>   >
>   > Re - "2. False accusation? You posted the link."
>   >
>   > You accused me of
>   >
>   > "and digging up articles on the poster"
>   >
>   > which had no basis in truth whatsoever.
>   >
>   > See post by Glenn on the 20th March 2005.
>   >
>   > If you don't think thats not a false accusation
>   > what do you think is?
>   >
>   > PS. I am quite content to see your definition of a false accusation
>   > without replying to it, and I definitely won't be, regardless of how
>   > innacurate it may be.
>   >
>   > So the last reply is all yours if you want it.
>   >
>   >
>   > Regards
>   > Barry Armstrong
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: trent&#167;sos.net.au
>   >   To: dns&#167;dotau.org
>   >   Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:07 PM
>   >   Subject: Re: [DNS] Bottle Domains - transfer issues URGENT HELP PLease.
>   >
>   >
>   >   1. I'm not a supporter of anyone in this ongoing flame war. Adam may
>   >   have thanked me, that's his choice, I wasn't praising him by any
>   >   stretch.... I don't support his post on the list either. If I have a
>   >   problem with a registrar, or any business I purchase from, I take my
>   >   business elsewhere, it's that simple.
>   >
>   >   2. False accusation? You posted the link. It doesn't matter who held the
>   >   interview, who typed the original or who edited it and submitted it on
>   >   that site. You posted it on this list. I didn't "accuse" you of
>   >   anything, I was trying to point out that if you ignored the post you
>   >   felt was irrelevant, it would go away. Instead you have given it
>   >   strength by continuing to drag it along. The only sad thing is you can't
>   >   see that. The last word is all you are interested in, like a dog
>   >   worrying a long stripped bone.
>   >
>   >   Hell, if you had stuck to your thought about irrelevance I WOULD have
>   >   been applauding... and it would have been YOU I was applauding!
>   >   I doubt you would complain then. No, it's obvious that the last word is
>   >   all you are interested in, like a dog worrying an aged, long stripped
>   >   bone. It's a shame you didn't stick to your guns, such is life.
>   >
>   >   Don't worry you can have the last word on this, as I know you are
>   >   busting to do so. I unlike you, won't be replying to this thread as the
>   >   original fellow is no doubt in discussions with the pleasant people at
>   >   Bottle Domains, who, although I don't have a business relationship with
>   >   them, I would recommend their personnel to anyone from previous experience.
>   >
>   >   P.S. Unnamed? I've noticed that OPSM have great deals on glasses.
>   >
>   >   info&#167;australianwebsites.com wrote:
>   >
>   >   >To Adam I meant.
>   >   >
>   >   >I was not aware at the time that Adam had an un named supporter
>   >   >who would make a false accusation.
>   >   >
>   >   >Copy below.
>   >   >
>   >   >Re - your email "digging up articles on the poster"
>   >   >
>   >   >It was actually in fact
>   >   >
>   >   >Glenn Powell who had the initiative to do some research and managed
>   >   >to find and post the link
>   >   >
>   >   >http://www.abc.net.au/westernplains/stories/s1161799.htm
>   >   >
>   >   >in his post on the 20th March 2005.
>   >   >
>   >   >Its nice to see that at least one other member of this list has the
>   > initiative
>   >   >to do some research and try to see some actual facts when a serious
>   > allegation
>   >   >is raised, and if you read the article at
>   >   >
>   >   >http://www.abc.net.au/westernplains/stories/s1161799.htm
>   >   >
>   >   >I don't think anyone could accuse Glenn of having posted a link to an
>   > article
>   >   >of a defamatory nature.
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >PS. As I am quite busy this will be my last reply to you too.
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >Regards
>   >   >Barry Armstrong
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >  ----- Original Message -----
>   >   >  From: trent&#167;sos.net.au
>   >   >  To: dns&#167;dotau.org
>   >   >  Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 1:18 PM
>   >   >  Subject: Re: [DNS] Bottle Domains - transfer issues URGENT HELP PLease.
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >  ...
>   >   >
>   >   >  info&#167;australianwebsites.com wrote:
>   >   >
>   >   >  >...actually I am quite busy, ...so this will be my last reply.
>   >   >  >
>   >   >  >
>   >   >  >Regards
>   >   >  >Barry Armstrong
>   >   >  >
>   >   >
>   >   >
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