| That a control panel can  only create a wildcard reference is whack.. What
| happens if they want a subdomain to point to a different IP.. They have to
| request you guys to do it?

No they do it themselves in the DNS editor, like other CP's plesk/ensim
whatever. Enough about this its now off topic...

I had a legitimate concern; got flack; next time I'll just call auDA and
query them.

What I was interested in what people's thoughts were on legitimate uses of
wildcard DNS entries in a hosting environment...

It was silly of me to expect to see anything more from this list than
reading Vic's entertaining posts calling people who disagree with him
communists and the occasional smart alec comment which really make my day.

Last reply from me on the subject...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Davis" <james&#167;tekscape-its.com>
To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [DNS] Use of wildcard resource records


| Nothing at all...
|
| Just all the control panel software I know of, and have used
| ensim/plesk/cpanel the three big ones. Create A records based off
templates
| when you initially set up the account, and when users want to add a sub
| domain, they simple add a subdomain and the record is created for them..
|
| That a control panel can  only create a wildcard reference is whack.. What
| happens if they want a subdomain to point to a different IP.. They have to
| request you guys to do it?
|
| ----- Original Message ----- 
| From: "Brenden Cruikshank" <brenden.cruikshank&#167;spiritcomm.com.au>
| To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
| Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 5:41 PM
| Subject: Re: [DNS] Use of wildcard resource records
|
|
| I must admit, I had a laugh at the guy who said his software can't create
A
| records for customer domains - Only wildcards. If I were him I'd be asking
| myself exactly why I'm using this piece of software.
|
| Its a popular control panel software. Google it and you'll see...
|
| Just about everything similar on the market does the same thing...
| Unfortunately we decided to use 3rd party software instead of developing
| something ourselves. What's so bad in that???
|
|   ----- Original Message ----- 
|   From: James Davis
|   To: kim&#167;cynosure.com.au
|   Cc: dns&#167;dotau.org
|   Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 5:48 PM
|   Subject: Re: [DNS] Use of wildcard resource records
|
|
|
|
|   <<snip>>
|   |They were previously blocked, but the auDA Names Policy Review Panel in
|   |2004 determined that "the technical basis for maintained the
restriction
|   |is no longer relevant". I'm not sure what study was performed to come
to
|   |the conclusion, but their final report reads:
|   |
|   |Recommendation 4: Restriction on domain names that match existing TLDs
|   |
|   |Recommendation 4:
|   |
|   |The Panel recommends that the restriction on domain names that match
|   |existing TLDs be removed. Current policy: The auDA Reserved List
|   |contains existing ccTLDs and gTLDs, which means that people cannot
|   |register two-letter domain names such as "uk", "nz" and "jp", or other
|   |domain names such as "com", "name" and "museum". The basis for
reserving
|   |gTLDs and ccTLDs is to comply with IETF standard RFC 1535 (refer to
|   |http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1535.txt?number=1535.)
|   |
|   |Rationale:
|   |
|   |The Panel notes that the technical basis for maintaining the
restriction
|   |is no longer relevant due to DNS technology developments since RFC 1535
|   |was drafted over 10 years ago. The Panel further notes that in the
|   |past the restriction has been imposed inconsistently, and hence some
|   |restricted names are in fact being used with no apparent ill effect.
|
|   Well obviously they were wrong. The RFC may 10 years old, but it's still
| more than valid. As I stated in previous emails, not everyone has a decent
| sysadmin, or patched machines or correctly set up networks.
|
|   Again does anyone see a valid use for these domains? Knowing that more
| than likely they will end up as link farms and utterly devoid of any
useful
| content.
|
|   Restricting these small subset of domains removes the need for auda to
| enforce a draconian policy of "If we don't like you, or the * reference
you
| are using on your domain then we will remove the domain from your
| possession."
|   Is there going to be some sort of mediation process? Or is the time
frame
| set in concrete.. You may be using 30,000 virtual hosts off one domain
| (extreme end of scale) I can just imagine how long that would take to
| replace with actual entries rather than a wildcard.. Don't get me wrong
I'm
| not against wildcards or for them, they have their place and I've used
them
| plenty of times. My gripe is when domains like uk.com.au, com.com.au,
| au.com.au are wildcarded.
|
|
|   What defines "against the best interest of .au" ??
|
|   I must admit, I had a laugh at the guy who said his software can't
create
| A records for customer domains - Only wildcards. If I were him I'd be
asking
| myself exactly why I'm using this piece of software.
|
|   Regards
|   James
|
|
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