Luke,

Whether you like it or not, not everyone shares your view that Australia is years behind. Simply put, not every ccTLD wants to be like .com. Given your desire for org.au domain names, you would be breaking the eligibility rules to register org.au domain names and thus risking having the domain names taken from you should there be a complaint made. Domain monetisation is a legitimate reason to register a domain name but only in com.au.

I think there should be some clarification on domain parking being huge overseas. Sure, some people have made a lot of money out of it, but these people are few and far between. It's not like you will walk down the street and regularly find people who have made their fortunes this way. But there are conference devoted to this on a regular basis with one happening in Hollywood this month.

The case hasn't been made by enough people as to why the eligibility rules should be changed to enable you to monetise domain names in org.au. And if you are so keen, where was your submission to the Names Policy Panel last year?

David


----- Original Message ----
From: Luke Corazza <luke.corazza&#167;gmail.com>
To: dns&#167;dotau.org
Sent: Monday, 14 January, 2008 11:06:25 AM
Subject: Re: [DNS] .org.au registrars for regular people (not a charity)

G'day Ian,

> So you can 'resell' these to someone else who's not eligible I guess?

No I'm not interested in selling the domains because I don't think .au
domain sales can be advertised can they? Like you can sell a domain
under that new transfer policy but there is still a rule saying you
just can't advertise it as for sale. Is that how it works? If so it is
pretty stupid because the only way you can sell it and recycle it back
into the domain system is by waiting for someone who wants a domain to
contact you with an offer so you'll never be able to get the true
value of the domain if you can not advertise it as for sale and not
place it through a open domain marketplace like  Sedo or Afternic or
eBay so is better to just register it and earn money through
advertising.

I just want to register some domains so I get high rankings in Google
and Yahoo because it just seems that search engines really like
.org.au domains so I can get decent traffic then put some
advertisements on them like everyone else is doing. I'm only new to
all of this (domains, seo, monetization) so can look at it objectively
and I don't see anything wrong with it. Everything I've read says
domain parking is legitimate business and domaining is HUGE overseas.
Look at the message boards like http://www.dnforum.com and
http://www.namepros.com  Australia is years behind the rest of the
world in this area. Australia is like it is a different universe when
it come to  all of this.

> You may get some offers off-list, but you might have to wait till the
> slather has completely finished being opened, sometime later this
 year
> if the recommendations of the latest panel are to be fully enacted.
You're right I've received information directly about how I can move
around the rules. Will be good when it is a completely open system
like you say will happen. Is there an ETA on when later this year it
will occur?

> Could you provide us with one or two examples?
I've seen these ones at the top of Google for their search terms and
they all seem to be part of the same network. fashion.org.au
onlinegames.org.au food.org.au celebrity.org.au computer.org.au

This domain livingroom.org.au looks like it is registered to a church
it every time I do a search for stuff like SEO or Photos it comes up
on the #1 page with Google with made for Adsense sites on that domain
by that guy here in Australia that makes $300,000+ a year by pay per
click advertising which I guess is through sites like this
http://www.livingroom.org.au/photolog/
http://www.livingroom.org.au/searchengineoptimization/

There is a heap more I've seen but you only asked for a couple.

Cheers.
Luke


On Jan 13, 2008 5:11 PM, Ian Smith <smithi&#167;nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Luke Corazza wrote:
>
>  > Hello Aussie Domainers List,
>
> Yes, that's pretty much right these days.  Even has a newsletter
 that's
> been successfully pushing such further 'mercanisation for a while
 now.
>
>
>  > I've been trying to register some .org.au domains for domain name
>  > parking monetization but have been getting knocked back by
>  > registrars. I know there are rules that say you need to be a
>  > government/tax department authorised not-for-profit organisation
 or
>  > charity to get a .org.au but I was wanting to know which
 registrars
>  > allow you to buy .org.au domain names without actually being a
>  > authorised non-profit?
>
> Right, so you want to know which registrars will admit to breaching
 AuDA
> policies to 'sell' you a mob of domains for which you are not
 eligible?
> So you can 'resell' these to someone else who's not eligible I guess?
>
> You may get some offers off-list, but you might have to wait till the
> slather has completely finished being opened, sometime later this
 year
> if the recommendations of the latest panel are to be fully enacted.
>
>
>  > I've been seeing heaps of .org.au domains that seem like
 commercial
>  > sites and parking pages
>
> Could you provide us with one or two examples?
>
>
>  > so want know who I should go to to get some sweet domains while
>  > they are still left.
>
> For now it'll just have to be done under the counter (nudge, wink)
 but
> some say that's no impediment .. in fact past breaches of policies
 has
> been advanced as a primary reason that all rules should be abandoned,
 so
> you're definitely on the winning side ..
>
>  > Thanks.  Luke
>
> Ian
>
>
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