If a customer enters an agreement with a corporate entity that allows that
entity to assign the benefit of the agreement to another entity, then there
s no issue if it does so. Presumably Bottle had such agreements or they
wouldn't/shouldn't have done the assignment. Assumning they did have that
right in their contract with the registrants, this transfer may not breach
auDA policy, which applies to transfers from one registrar to another
initiated by a reseller or a registrant.


Regards,

Larry Bloch | CEO | Online Growth Solutions Ltd

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-----Original Message-----
From: dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au§dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of
Ron Stark
Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 6:21 PM
To: '.au DNS Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [DNS] Bottle breaches policy

I suspect it's rather more than simply transferring domain names.  

There is also the issue of transferring significant assets from one
corporate entiry to another, without clients' permission.  Can the
registrant trust the new entity?  Does it have substance?  Does it have a
track record?  Or is it a manoevre to pre-emptiveley transfer assets?

Given the litigation in progress I must admit that I'd be rather skeptical
of Bottle's motives.

Larry, I'm disquieted by your apparent support of what appears to be a
blatant breach of contract.  Do you allow your own customers to get away
with it, if they happen to disagree with your rules?

Ron Stark

-----Original Message-----
From: dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+ronstark=snapsite.com.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of Larry
Bloch
Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:34
To: '.au DNS Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [DNS] Bottle breaches policy

Seriously, a transfer breach is a transfer breach - when we do it we all
have to cop it. But if registrars think that they can rub their hands in
glee over Bottle's de-accreditation by auDA, you should remember that it
could be your business next.

I'm on Bottle's side on this because it is bullying tactics, its arbitrary,
and it could be any one of us next. I'm not standing up for the rights of
downtrodden registrars, I'm standing for the right of my business to not be
threatened by de-accreditation (and ensuing oblivion) over a matter that
doesn't warrant it. I'm pretty bemused as to why I'm the only one. Surely
you don't want a regulator that destroys businesses and employment with
little notice for questionable reasons just because it can. 

If auDA is unaccountable, it will do as it pleases regardless of the
consequence - because there will be no consequence.

Regards,

Larry Bloch | CEO | Online Growth Solutions Ltd

Netregistry | PlanetDomain | NETT Magazine | Hostess

Direct: ???????????? 02 9641 8636
Mobile: ?????????? 0411 545 118
Personal Fax: ? 02? 80790741
Email: ????????????? larry.bloch§netregistry.com.au


T +61 2 9699 6099 | F +61 2? 9699 6088| http://www.netregistry.com.au
PO Box 270 Broadway, NSW 2007, Australia

Domain Names | Email Solutions | Web Hosting | Dedicated Hosting | eCommerce
| Online Marketing


-----Original Message-----
From: dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au§dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+larry.bloch=netregistry.com.au§dotau.org] On Behalf Of
Rod Keys
Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 3:42 PM
To: .au DNS Discussion List
Subject: [DNS] Bottle breaches policy

FYI

http://www.auda.org.au/news-archive/auda-12052009/

Now we just have to sit back and watch Larry Blocks publicity machine do
it's thing to stand up for the rights of downtrodden registrars.
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