Simon, >Ok, so what happened to ADNA considering the creation of ".biz.au", which >Michael Malone and I co-proposed multiple times, beginning prior to the >formal creation of ADNA? There is no substantial difference that I am aware of between the proposal for .biz.au and the one for .pr.au. OK, the characters are different. If you thing .biz. is a huge improvement on .pr, say so. I don't think the actual characters are that important. If you look at the proposed policy for .pr.au you will see it is unrelated to trademarks. Trademarks are as much (and as little) an issue for the DNS as the phone whitepages (another name listing) are. >Meanwhile, we all know that the only space which really >matters in commercial terms is com.au - and that everything >else is less important, commercially at least. There's no doubt that Registrar competition in .com.au is a serious issue, as it is currently where most of the activity occurs. Of course, the availability of a new commercial SLD would tend to dilute some of that focus. By the same token, if ADNA had automatically accepted the recommendations of one special interest group (trademark lawyers) and accepted 200,000 trademarks into .com.au, that would have increased the .com.au centricity of the .au namespace. From a strictly business viewpoint, any sensible business would favour a decision that gave them instant access to another 200,000 customers. ADNA voted against that. ADNA should certainly get a 'public trust' tick of approval for its decision not to approve trademark names for products in .com.au. * There was clear support from a small community with a vested interest - doesn't automatically make that support wrong, but it doesn't make it right, either. Hard to see automatic approval of vocal minority interest as being consistent with 'public trust'. * The inclusion of trademarks in .com.au would have vastly increased its dominance of the .au namespace. Difficult to see that outcome as consistent with 'public trust' either. * The including of trademarks in .com.au might have made it impossible for 100,000 Australian businesess (mostly small businesses) to get the name of their choice. Hard to see that being consistent with 'public trust'. * ADNA did vote against a proposal that would have had a direct financial benefit that could currently only go to the one Registrar that operates there. Pretty good from a 'public trust' viewpoint too. Well, how about it folks - credit where credit is due, eh? On another issue which some folks may not have considered, two commercial Registrars have entered into contracts to provide a service to thousands of customers in return for a fee. That means they have to be conservative in accepting changes that might materially damage the service they provide to customers, as they have legal liability to thousands of customers. Registrars currently operating in .au SLDS who register names for free, have a helluva lot less liability issues to worry about. Since the customer gives no financial consideration for the service and gets no guarantees, those customer's rights of complaints are minimal compared to customers of the commercial Registrars. Given the relatively informal way existing Registrars arrived at their positions, it's quite likely that a legal analysis of their position is that they have far greater obligations to their customers than to the authority of the .au namespace. I'm not suggesting that's a good thing, but pointing out that they are running real businesess and have to consider these issues. Regards, MarkReceived on Thu Apr 02 1998 - 13:58:25 UTC
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