>>Do you have a ready prepared answer for when your customers ask you:  "Why
>>am I paying twice as much as necessary for renewing my domain names?"

I give them the option of renewing it through another registrar. To date none
have changed away from Melb IT. We dont force them to use Melb IT, it just so
happens that our customers have always used Melb IT and would be reluctant to
change because the other registrars are only new (not that this is bad, i
suppose they just want to see what happens with the domain name market) I myself
have used NameScout and am yet to try the others. If another registrar could
give me a good price for renewing all of our domain names, and we could transfer
them easily we would probably move to a different registrar.  Tenders welcome
:-)

Not sure about how easily bulk amounts of domain names are managed with
different registrars but Melb IT seem to handle it well.

If Melb IT got some more bandwidth to increase the speed of their service, and
allowed me to transfer bulk amounts of domain names to them without paying
extra. I would be content with their service. To cut a long story short i dont
really mind who is our registrar as long as it works, its cost effective. (i
spose this is what everyone wants)

Cheers,
Alan
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Mark Hughes wrote:

> > i use Melb IT to register a majority of
> > our customers domain names
>
> Do you have a ready prepared answer for when your customers ask you:  "Why
> am I paying twice as much as necessary for renewing my domain names?"
>
> I've just phoned WebCentral - of whom I'm a customer - they host one of my
> .com.au domain names - and had a conversation along the following lines:
>
> Me to Webcentral Sales Drone: "You host one of my .com.au domain names.  In
> the past, you've renewed that automatically as a Melbourne IT Reseller, and
> charged me $140 for the renewal.  Now that the cost has come down to less
> than half that, what do you propose to do?"
>
> Webcentral Sales Drone "We're still going to charge you $140".
>
> Me:  "Why?  Who's making the decision not become uncompetitive on pricing"
>
> Webcentral Sales Drone "Gee, I'm not sure - I'll transfer you to our Domain
> Administration department."
>
> Me to someone in their Domain Administration department: "You host one of my
> .com.au domain names.  In the past, you've renewed that automatically as a
> Melbourne IT Reseller, and charged me $140 for the renewal.  Now that the
> cost has come down to less than half that, what do you propose to do?"
>
> Domain Administration department:  "We think we're still going to charge you
> $140".
>
> Me:  "But the cost of renewing domain names has come down by more than half.
> Who's making the decision to become uncompetitive on pricing?"
>
> Domain Administration department:  "Let me transfer you to the head of the
> department"
>
> Me to Webcentral's Domain Administration Department Head:  "You host one of
> my .com.au domain names.  In the past, you've renewed that automatically as
> a Melbourne IT Reseller, and charged me $140 for the renewal.  Now that the
> cost has come down to less than half that, what do you propose to do?"
>
> Webcentral:  "We're aware of the issue.  We're investigating our options at
> the moment."
>
> Me:  "I understand that you folks host a helluva lot of .au domain names
> (40,000 or so, I believe) , and therefore would need to be confident that
> whichever Registrar you go with has the resources to handle your volume, but
> don't you think that when your customers find out that you're charging more
> than twice as much as the lowest available price, it might not exactly be a
> great marketing coup?"
>
> Webcentral:  "Yes.  We're in negotiations - they could be concluded
> shortly".
>
> My suggestion to any Registrars reading this list - if you 'ain't already in
> negotiations with WebCentral, pick up the phone NOW and make an offer to
> their Domain Administration folks - or miss out!  Likewise phone the other
> hosting services, Connect, etc, etc.
>
> Regards, Mark
>
> Mark Hughes
> Effective Business Applications Pty Ltd
> effectivebusiness§pplications.com.au
> www.pplications.com.au
> +61 4 1374 3959
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan DeBritt [mailto:info§webone.com.au]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2002 10:57
> > To: dns§lists.auda.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [DNS] Melbourne IT - slow speed, laxsecurity and
> > poorquality of service
> >
> >
> > I would just like to say i use Melb IT to register a majority of
> > our customers
> > domain names and have never had a problem. All of my requests are
> > processed in
> > a reasonable amount of time and i always get a response from
> > them. Their site
> > is a bit slower than other sites, however Namescout has also been
> > slow (their
> > speed seems to of increased of late). I also think their pricing
> > could be a
> > little more reasonable for .com.au domain names however TLD's are
> > cheap if you
> > have a reseller agreement.
> >
> > Just my two bits. :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Alan
> >
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> >
> >
> > Lucian Daniel Kafka wrote:
> >
> > > At 04:54 PM 8/6/02 +1000, you wrote:
> > > >On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Peter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I read the auda documentation that said the the domain
> > > > > registrations only cost $12, yet the parasites losers
> > > > > at Melbourne IT are forcing us to pay them $140 for
> > > > > this service.
> > > >
> > > >And when Melb IT ran the show; the costs were not *even* $12/domain
> > > >(probably more like $5/domain/year) :P
> > >
> > > Registrars buy wholesale domains for more than that. .com.au/.net.au are
> > > for example $50, others cheaper. The $11 is the auDA fee only, on top of
> > > which AusRegistry puts its own fee
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Lucian Kafka
> > >
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