auDA policy requires that registrars have direct communication with registrants under certain circumstances -- offering hosting and additional services is not one of them. If a Registrar wanted your business and was prepared to accept your terms there is nothing stopping them from doing so. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Keeves [mailto:richard§ibc.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2003 10:40 PM To: dns§lists.auda.org.au Subject: [DNS] let's re-define the problem.... Hi guys, actually, you might have missed the point of all this... there is not a problem in the registrant knowing which registrar the resller is using to process the registration. the problem arises when the registrar knowingly directly targets the registrant to offer/sell services direct to the registrant that would otherwise have been sold by the reseller. that is the crux of this issue. it is about the channel - and the role of the reseller. it may be good for you to present this as a storm in a teacup, but for resellers it is about getting assurances that such direct targetting will not happen. the registrars say that they can't give such assurances - as they say that auDA policy requires that the registrars have direct communication with the registrant. I (and others) are saying that this communication could be done by the reseller, possibly acting as an agent of the registrar. cheers Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Lawrence" <jon§jonlawrence.com> To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au>; <dns§lists.auda.org.au> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:08 PM Subject: RE: [DNS] Enetica Hi Karl I don't think you're missing anything. Many of the recent posters to this list however seem to have difficulty understanding the situation that you have outlined in this paragraph: >As long as registrants are informed about the registrar that was used on >their behalf (so that they could in theory act independently of the reseller), >there doesn't seem to me to be a problem. There is a direct association between >the registrar and the registrant, but the reseller manages that association. regards jon >-- Original Message -- >Reply-To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:55:35 +0200 >From: "Auer, Karl James" <karl.auer§id.ethz.ch> >To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au> >Subject: RE: [DNS] Enetica > > >> the fact that resellers have no status with auDA and cannot be >> legally acting on behalf of a registrant. > >This doesn't make any sense to me. I can enter a contract with anyone I like >and authorise that person to act on my behalf in any matter I choose. There >are some exceptions (I can't marry by proxy) and some responsibilities can't >be delegated (I can't delegate my responsibilities as director of a company). >I can also authorise my agents to use their own judgement in the matter at >hand, or limit that exercise of judgement in whatever ways I choose. > >When I read the "change of registrar of record" policy (transfers), it explicitly >refers to resellers acting on behalf of registrants (see sections 4.2 and >7, for example). Section 7 even talks about bulk transfers by resellers from >one registrar to another. > >As long as registrants are informed about the registrar that was used on >their behalf (so that they could in theory act independently of the reseller), >there doesn't seem to me to be a problem. There is a direct association between >the registrar and the registrant, but the reseller manages that association. > >What am I missing? It all seems a storm in a teacup... > >Regards, K. > >-- >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ >Karl Auer (karl.auer§id.ethz.ch) Geschaeft/work +41-1-6327531 >Kommunikation, ETHZ RZ Privat/home +41-43-2660706 >Clausiusstrasse 59 CH-8092 ZUERICH Switzerland Fax +41-1-6321225 > Eidgenoessische Technische Hochschule, Zuerich > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >List policy, unsubscribing and archives => http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ >Please do not retransmit articles on this list without permission of the >author, further information at the above URL. (368 subscribers.) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- List policy, unsubscribing and archives => http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ Please do not retransmit articles on this list without permission of the author, further information at the above URL. (368 subscribers.) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- List policy, unsubscribing and archives => http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ Please do not retransmit articles on this list without permission of the author, further information at the above URL. (368 subscribers.)Received on Fri Oct 03 2003 - 00:00:00 UTC
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