Kirk, OK, maybe I misinterpreted your comments on discrimination. Regarding Jaws - being able to use Jaws relies on the website being accessible in the first place. If the website aint accessible, then in a worst case scenario it's a case of the website being a no-go zone. So while the idea of subsidising Jaws has merit, it's not the issue. That's another argument for another place. I did not advocate that anyone should purchase a computer. I was noting the significant costs involved for a person who is blind in using a computer in the first place. And Gene... so your point that QUT has a blind person using IT is...? This is nothing new. Blind people use IT for a whole range of reasons. Ask him how he finds navigating the web, and especially the ubiquitous pdf document! David ----- Original Message ---- From: Kirk Fletcher <kirk§enetica.com.au> To: .au DNS Discussion List <dns§dotau.org> Sent: Monday, 13 November, 2006 3:24:35 PM Subject: Re: [DNS] Let's Talk Net David wrote: > Kirk, > Your argument that discrimination against a person because of their > race is different to discrimination because of a disability is crap. I made no such argument - so please cut the crap yourself! I used an example of explicit vs implicit discrimination. My position was not that we disregard these issues (which is why I noted the license issue as an example of a good outcome), only that it is unreasonable to put a financial burden on website owners from which they may receive little or no gain. It is not immoral to consider a cost benefit analysis in these cases, it is negligent NOT to. A cheaper option is possibly to subsidise the aforementioned Jaws for those that need it (I'm not saying that I necessarily like this idea either, mind you.) Would this work out cheaper? I have no idea, because I don't have the figures, and haven't done a cost benefit analysis. Neither have you - since apparently, conideration of cost is immoral. As for cost of computers, etc... what? we have to buy that for people too now, just so they can view our website? Regards, Kirk Fletcher --------------------------------------------------------------------------- List policy, unsubscribing and archives => http://dotau.org/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.comReceived on Mon Nov 13 2006 - 05:30:10 UTC
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