He Loves It

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Goldstein" <goldstein_david&#167;yahoo.com.au>
To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: [DNS] accessibility and the internet


> Kirk,
>
> OK, maybe I misinterpreted your comments on discrimination.
>
> Regarding Jaws - being able to use Jaws relies on the website being
accessible in the first place. If the website aint accessible, then in a
worst case scenario it's a case of the website being a no-go zone. So while
the idea of subsidising Jaws has merit, it's not the issue. That's another
argument for another place.
>
> I did not advocate that anyone should purchase a computer. I was noting
the significant costs involved for a person who is blind in using a computer
in the first place.
>
> And Gene... so your point that QUT has a blind person using IT is...? This
is nothing new. Blind people use IT for a whole range of reasons. Ask him
how he finds navigating the web, and especially the ubiquitous pdf document!
>
> David
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Kirk Fletcher <kirk&#167;enetica.com.au>
> To: .au DNS Discussion List <dns&#167;dotau.org>
> Sent: Monday, 13 November, 2006 3:24:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Let's Talk Net
>
>
> David wrote:
> > Kirk,
> > Your argument that discrimination against a person because of their
> > race is different to discrimination because of a disability is crap.
>
> I made no such argument - so please cut the crap yourself!  I used
> an example of explicit vs implicit discrimination.
>
> My position was not that we disregard these issues (which is why I
> noted the license issue as an example of a good outcome), only
> that it is unreasonable to put a financial burden on website owners
> from which they may receive little or no gain.
>
> It is not immoral to consider a cost benefit analysis in these cases,
> it is negligent NOT to.  A cheaper option is possibly to subsidise
> the aforementioned Jaws for those that need it (I'm not saying that
> I necessarily like this idea either, mind you.)  Would this work out
> cheaper?  I have no idea, because I don't have the figures, and
> haven't done a cost benefit analysis.  Neither have you - since
> apparently, conideration of cost is immoral.
>
> As for cost of computers, etc... what? we have to buy that for
> people too now, just so they can view our website?
>
> Regards,
> Kirk Fletcher
>
>
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